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« on: November 01, 2008, 09:10:40 AM »

Hi All,

Just to let you know that you now have the option of using a new tracking feature within hippoJaw that completely does away with the need for you to play around with passing ID's in your URL's.

I know we have a few users who either can't use PHP on their pages/server or are having trouble getting it to function correctly, so this is the perfect solution for you guys.

The system makes use of a URL redirection service within hippoJaw called hippoJump Cheesy All you need to do is take the new menu option from your Control Panel "hippoJump Redirects" and add in details of the clickbank publisher and your affiliate nickname. There are of course full instructions on the page.

The URL redirection service is currently tailored to Clickbank redirects only, though this will be expanded to custom URL's in the near future.

All feedback gratefuly received Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 09:38:50 AM »

Sweet Phil,

I haven't been able to successfully insert the getid php script on my site with nvu or kompozer.

However I'm not promoting clickbank products, any hints on when this will be available for other networks?

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 09:56:12 AM »

Thanks Joey,

It's going to be within the next week or so I hope. Will post here when done though.

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 10:35:34 AM »

Phil,

I am very impressed in the way you are evolving this product to meet customer needs.  With this latest innovation I think you are REALLY on to something when you combine it with what you already have in place.

Next thing you know you will

1.  Have the system able to store your customer's Clickbank affiliate ID(s) in their profile.
2.  Blend your services so that people can see the listings from the Clickbank Monitor along with a listing of their Clickbank ID(s).  
    a.  The Clickbank Monitor entries and Clickbank Id(s) will have selection check boxes just to their left and a short text entry box will be just to the right of their Clickbank ID.
    b.  Then your magic will allow folks to automate the HippoJump process by
        (1) "Checking" their clickbank id(s) and the Clickbank products they want to promote and track.
        (2) Entering a name into the text box beside the Clickbank ID to become the subdirectory name
    c.  And viola "thru HippoMagic" your links are created for the prescreened "30/100" products complete with tracking capability and folks can slap them into SpeedPPC or Ad Grenade and do some lightning fast direct link testing while they prioritize and focus on creating landing pages for the "winners"
    d.  And when they are ready to split test landing pages they can come back and do the process again to create different tracking for each landing page.

As you mentioned a large amount of the frustration and lost time echoed by the forum posts is with tracking.  It looks like you have a GREAT solution.

And I wouldn't be too worried about it only working with Clickbank.  I think that can prove to be a very strong starting niche and could be "integration marketed" with hundreds of clickbank products (think your HippoJaw product being offered on the thank you page or as a one time offer on hundreds of associated click bank product promotions .  You may be on to the next "Killer App!

Well done!  And thank you!
Jack





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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 10:58:08 AM »

Thanks Jack - I love that idea Cheesy The downside is of course that your Quality Score would be terrible Sad

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 11:55:02 AM »

Phil,

No worries, I really do want to see HippoJaw go MASSIVE for you.  I love to see folks succeed.

Direct linking doesn't need to mean low QS.  Depends on the product site that it links to.  And product vendors are really starting to get that and are putting together content sites of which the product page is only part of.  They are even putting together several versions of their product sales page, each one SEO optimized for specific keywords.
You are seeing it more and more and it is a good thing for us and something to keep in mind as you build out your HippoJaw website.

I have several direct link campaigns that work very well and have a QS of 7/10.

So Phil, while you stay focused on evolving HippoJaws into the best in class tracking software, find some good folks to build you a best in class product site and affiliate support tools that your Comm Blue brothers and sisters can rally behind and lets create our own Gravity Scores!!!


Take care,
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 01:27:22 PM »

Hi All,

Just to let you know that you now have the option of using a new tracking feature within hippoJaw that completely does away with the need for you to play around with passing ID's in your URL's.

I know we have a few users who either can't use PHP on their pages/server or are having trouble getting it to function correctly, so this is the perfect solution for you guys.

The system makes use of a URL redirection service within hippoJaw called hippoJump Cheesy All you need to do is take the new menu option from your Control Panel "hippoJump Redirects" and add in details of the clickbank publisher and your affiliate nickname. There are of course full instructions on the page.

The URL redirection service is currently tailored to Clickbank redirects only, though this will be expanded to custom URL's in the near future.

All feedback gratefuly received Smiley

Phil





hi Phil,
I just tested, and I have 2 things .
1. I forget what email I signed up with, but I am not seeing any of the test emails from the site, that are mentioned on the webpage? I did not specifically use test for my id, in case that makes a difference. I didnt see which email in my preferences, how can I know for sure? Crazy, the number of email accts I have now.
2. One of my links I am trying to use to send to a specific page, and it is not working with the new links you described.  Here is what I entered: http://fatloss4idiots.hippojump.com/?page=7575      This does take me to the right site, just not the page I want.  Any ideas?

Thanks
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 02:10:53 PM »

Hi Kit,

I had a quick look at your homepage but couldnt see any of the hippoJaw tracking code, so presumably you have created a specific landing page?

At the moment, you can only pass one parameter to the publisher, i.e. the clickbank tracking id (tid), so you're going to need the custom URL overide feature, it'll be here shortly Smiley

Thanks
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 02:14:15 PM »

Exactly right, I am using another page within, and will be doing that for most of my campaigns. What also threw me was hippojaw only needing the main domain name, so I hope I did things right.  And, looking forward to any new updates!!   I realize the /? page is used with php and that is why it is not working...

thanks for the response
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 02:24:19 PM »

Yep, just needs the main domain name to identify the website and match the tracking to your reports.

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 02:34:22 PM »

Direct linking doesn't need to mean low QS.  Depends on the product site that it links to.

Yes, though true for direct linking? We would need to use immediate redirect (after recording the visitor and SE data) which (I think) Google don't approve of - I could be completely wrong and would like to hear of anyone elses experience here.

I would be more than happy to put this add-on together if wasnt going to cause issues for adwords users.

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2008, 05:48:43 AM »

Google doesn't have a problem with it as long as they can tell it is for tracking purposes.  Immediate redirect after capturing the visitor and SE data is how my Hexatrack.com account works. 

So my display URL and destination could look like this.

Display                 CommissionBlueprint.com
Desitination           http://crt.hexatrack.com/go.php?mid=7522&cid=2698

And my quality score is still based of the FINAL destination that the tracking URL sends me to so my quality score still depends on how I include the keywords in my ad and that those keywords appear on the product page I still very often get 7/10 QS.

So as far as I can tell, HippoJump Urls will work just as well as Hexatrack URLs within Google for direct linking.

The thing is HEXATRACK DOES NOT WORK WELL TO GIVE DETAILED TRACKING FOR CLICKBANK CAMPAIGNS because of Clickbank's character limit to their TID.  Below is a quote from the Clickbank campaign admin section within Hexatrack.

"Note: Due to limitations with ClickBank's 8-character subIDs, analysis can only be done at the keyword level. This means that it's not possible to match a conversion with a specific click in the logs. But we can at least show you what long-tail keywords were used in the date range and highlight them in the logs with a green background. Until Clickbank decides to upgrade their system to use subIDs with 64 characters or more, there is no way to get around this limitation. You can however click the Download Clickbank Conversion Keywords button on the main ClickBank page to get a report with timestamps, keywords, and offer information to help you match the logs."

This is another reason (along with ones I suggested earlier) that I think focusing on the Clickbank niche and further automating and improving the Clickbank/Comm Blue methodology could be a solid strategy (just an opinion).

Take care,
Jack


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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 05:55:12 AM »

Sounds great Jack, thanks for clarifying.

I can't see that hippoJaw would have any trouble in tracking the keyword ID and the search phrase that triggered it. Exciting stuff!

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2008, 10:18:38 PM »

Phil, Thanks a bunch I've been stuck most of the week, and finally...Woo Hoo!! I'm sure something else will jump up and bite me, but for today, all's sweet  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2008, 12:29:34 PM »

If I am already setup using the old way with php redirect and its working fine is there any advantages in implementing the hippojump redirect? Should I take the time to switch everything or is it not needed. Perhaps a dumb question but I haven't had my coffee yet.

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